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Show Notes/Description:
In this episode of the Muscle Intelligence Podcast, Ben Pakulski sits down with Stephane Cazeault and Pauric O’Rourkeof KILO Strength Society to break down the science of intelligent programming. Together, they reveal how to build strength that lasts, create systems that evolve over decades, and avoid the common mistakes that limit progress. From Olympic-style periodization to practical applications for everyday athletes, this episode bridges elite theory and real-world execution. Whether you’re a coach, athlete, or driven executive looking to optimize your training and longevity, this conversation will redefine how you think about programming for performance.
Points To Watch Out For:
- The missing link between strength, hypertrophy, and longevity
- Why most programming fails after the first 12 weeks
- How to assess and progress clients for long-term results
- The difference between intermuscular and intramuscular coordination
- Building adaptable systems for athletes and gen pop
Timestamps:
00:00 – Intro: The Future of Intelligent Training
06:15 – Why Most Coaches Get Programming Wrong
10:05 – The Missing Link in Long-Term Results
14:10 – How to Build Systems for Lifelong Progress
16:00 – The KILO Assessment: What Elite Coaches Do Differently
20:00 – Mobility vs. Stability: What Really Limits Strength
22:30 – How to Choose the Right Exercise for Any Client
26:15 – The Science of Training Volume & Recovery
31:00 – Do Men and Women Need Different Programs?
37:00 – Training for Decades, Not Just 12 Weeks
43:15 – The Secret to Selecting the Right Lifts
45:40 – Why You Must Train All Ranges of Motion
52:30 – How Often You Should Rehearse Each Lift
1:02:00 – Fat Loss vs. Strength: What to Focus on First
1:04:15 – The Hidden Science Behind Hypertrophy & Work Capacity
About Guests:
Stephane Cazeault and Pauric O’Rourke are co-founders of KILO Strength Society, one of the world’s leading education companies for strength coaches and performance professionals. Both are former Poliquin Group educators who’ve trained elite athletes across the NHL, NFL, MLB, and Olympic levels. Their system blends biomechanics, physiology, and long-term periodization into practical, results-driven programming. Based in Fort Lauderdale, KILO teaches the next generation of coaches how to write programs that actually work – scalable, progressive, and built for results that last decades, not weeks. Together, Stephane and Pauric continue Charles Poliquin’s legacy by empowering coaches and athletes to pursue mastery through intelligent, data-driven training systems.
About Ben:
Ben Pakulski is the Chief Performance Officer to elite executives, successful entrepreneurs, and top athletes.With over 25 years of experience, he coaches high achievers to build the physical, psychological, and metabolic resilience required to lead at the highest level. As the creator of the Muscle Intelligence framework, Ben specializes in aligning biology and behavior to drive sustained peak performance. His mission is to redefine what’s possible for people in their prime and push the boundaries of human potential.
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