50 – The Ultimate Tool For Accurately Quantifying Your Sleep, HRV, Caloric Expenditure and More with Petteri Lahtela

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Joining Ben on the podcast today is Petteri Lahtela,  Co-founder and CEO of Oura Health. ŌURA is the world’s first wellness ring and app. Based on how your body responds to your lifestyle it guides you to improve sleep, health and readiness to perform.

Petteri and Ben dive into the science and practical application behind the ŌURA ring. 

Topics Discussed:

⇾ The importance of body temperature and the glaring problem with most sleep studies.

⇾ How the ŌURA ring actually measures sleep.

⇾ The driving factors of chronic diseases.

⇾ How much REM sleep do you need? How much deep sleep do you need?

⇾ HRV, resting heart rate and the ŌURA ring’s ability to accurately measure both.

More about Petteri,

Petteri Lahtela is the CEO and Co-Founder of Oura Health. He is a serial entrepreneur
with 25 years of experience in creating high-tech products, building international
businesses, opening new markets and sales channels in over 20 countries. He has wide
expertise from leading positions in the context of Mobile telecoms, healthcare IT systems, health & medical technology businesses as well as healthcare and wellness services.
ŌURA is the world’s first wellness ring and app. By analyzing your sleep quality, activity
levels, daily rhythms and the physiological responses of your body, it helps you to improve recovery from daily mental and physical load. ŌURA shows how your body responds to your lifestyle and guides you towards better balance and readiness to perform. ŌURA brings together Petteri’s passion on human well-being, physiology and creating high-tech products that provide highly meaningful health benefits.

Time Stamps:

  • 5:40 The driving factors of chronic diseases.

  • 9:00 – The science behind how the ŌURA ring actually measures sleep.

  • 11:30 – The key advantages of using a ring instead of a wrist band for self quantification devices. 

  • 13:30 – Independent research backing the ŌURA ring from Stanford.

  • 20:47 – LED’s and bluetooth, effects on sleep quality.

  • 26:10 – HRV, resting heart rate and the ŌURA ring’s ability to accurately  measure both.

  • 27:10 – Low resting heart rate during sleep and your ability to exercise and perform in a workout, is there a correlation? 

  • 29:15 – The importance of body temperature and the glaring problem with sleep studies that sleep experts agree upon.

  • 31:00 – How much REM sleep do you really need? How much deep sleep do you need?

  • 34:58 – Questions from Muscle Expert Nation.

  • 35:40 – The latest technology upgrades in the ŌURA  Ring that Petteri is still testing. 

  • 42:15 – The lack of science behind the 10,000 steps claim.

  • 44:20 – How accurate is the ŌURA ring for measuring caloric expenditure? Activity calories vs metabolic calories and the problem with other tracking devices that track caloric expenditure.

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Ben Pakulski

Ben Pakulski

Since first lifting weights as a teenager, Ben has been on a mission to do whatever it takes… …to become the most muscular man on the planet! On the eve of The Arnold Classic, he confronts the dark realities of bodybuilding… And his own future! Follow him on his journey…

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